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	<title>Comments on: The IP imperative for IT Services or How to Beat the Recession</title>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Internal&#8221; Products &#171; Confessions of an Digital Immigrant</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]   Basab Pradhan, CEO of gridstone and formerly Head of Sales for Infosys Technologies, writes this very interesting piece on what IT and K/BPO companies can do to survive through the recession (please don&#8217;t wait for the Fed to certify the recession. Look around). Platform BPO is what [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]   Basab Pradhan, CEO of gridstone and formerly Head of Sales for Infosys Technologies, writes this very interesting piece on what IT and K/BPO companies can do to survive through the recession (please don&#8217;t wait for the Fed to certify the recession. Look around). Platform BPO is what [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Basab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Basab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 17:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peaceforall,

Your observation is correct. I attribute this to many reasons:

1. Indian companies are not genetically wired to take advantage of retained IP. There is no mgt focus on it. There isn&#039;t enough deep domain to know how to assess the market opportunity for it.
2. The teams that negotiate the deal are so focused on thwarting a competitor and getting an acceptable bill rate, that they don&#039;t want to add another wrinkle to the negotiations.
3. Offshore outsourcing began with the biggest global companies like GE. These companies will never give away IP. Perhaps, it has conditioned Indian companies to &#039;Work for Hire&#039;. They know no other way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peaceforall,</p>
<p>Your observation is correct. I attribute this to many reasons:</p>
<p>1. Indian companies are not genetically wired to take advantage of retained IP. There is no mgt focus on it. There isn&#8217;t enough deep domain to know how to assess the market opportunity for it.<br />
2. The teams that negotiate the deal are so focused on thwarting a competitor and getting an acceptable bill rate, that they don&#8217;t want to add another wrinkle to the negotiations.<br />
3. Offshore outsourcing began with the biggest global companies like GE. These companies will never give away IP. Perhaps, it has conditioned Indian companies to &#8216;Work for Hire&#8217;. They know no other way.</p>
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		<title>By: Peaceforall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peaceforall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basab,

Had a question, I manage a lot of IT services vendor relationships for my company, including one of the IT Majors. Now, when we get these IT services companies to build software solutions for us, we have never received a request on ownership/IP. Is this a new trend and how does this model work? Would appreciate your response.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basab,</p>
<p>Had a question, I manage a lot of IT services vendor relationships for my company, including one of the IT Majors. Now, when we get these IT services companies to build software solutions for us, we have never received a request on ownership/IP. Is this a new trend and how does this model work? Would appreciate your response.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Basab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Basab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vivek,

thanks for pointing out the missing links. I think I have them right now.

The IP imperatives, I think are the same for smaller services startups, if not more important. Focus needs to be sharper since you have fewer resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivek,</p>
<p>thanks for pointing out the missing links. I think I have them right now.</p>
<p>The IP imperatives, I think are the same for smaller services startups, if not more important. Focus needs to be sharper since you have fewer resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Vivek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vivek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good commentary. Though there Execution skill varies (depends on the people), The Accenture&#039;s &amp; the EDS are great at Retaining/Sharing Knowledge , Documentation and therefore come through as more respectable in the Clients view.

Can you comment on what opportunities may exist for companies starting from the ground up in this environment. 
btw, Some of the links to your prev posts (here) are not linked !! Can you fix it up ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good commentary. Though there Execution skill varies (depends on the people), The Accenture&#8217;s &amp; the EDS are great at Retaining/Sharing Knowledge , Documentation and therefore come through as more respectable in the Clients view.</p>
<p>Can you comment on what opportunities may exist for companies starting from the ground up in this environment.<br />
btw, Some of the links to your prev posts (here) are not linked !! Can you fix it up ?</p>
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		<title>By: Basab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Basab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@The consultant,

Multi-tenant SaaS might be a good idea for a product company (or rather they had better, or have their lunch eaten!). But it is too far from the comfort zone of an IT Services company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@The consultant,</p>
<p>Multi-tenant SaaS might be a good idea for a product company (or rather they had better, or have their lunch eaten!). But it is too far from the comfort zone of an IT Services company.</p>
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		<title>By: The consultant</title>
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		<dc:creator>The consultant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Muti tenant SaaS – I don’t think this is a good idea.&quot; - You made a statement without explaining why it is not a good idea. If you are a products company instead of building a shrink wrapped product you may want to implement Muti tenant SaaS architecture. A products company can offer hosted solution to multiple customers and take over some non core processes as well with a Multi Tanent SaaS architecture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Muti tenant SaaS – I don’t think this is a good idea.&#8221; &#8211; You made a statement without explaining why it is not a good idea. If you are a products company instead of building a shrink wrapped product you may want to implement Muti tenant SaaS architecture. A products company can offer hosted solution to multiple customers and take over some non core processes as well with a Multi Tanent SaaS architecture.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basab 
You make a few interesting points. And the need is certainly here. 

The ‘big three’ of Indian IT average at over $4 billion. But with 100K employees each, the earning per employee averages $40K/employee. Five years ago, revenues averaged at $800-850mil with about 20K employees. [Earning/ employee the same magical $40K/employee]

On the surface, global ‘competitors” in the services space seem to be faring better Accenture with about $23 B and 170K employees can show about $136K and EDS (22B, 139K) about $156K.  However the fuzzy math here may be because these are not pure-play offshoring firms and hence comparing revenues streams may be like comparing apples and oranges (?)… and not really manpower-vs-solutions. 

Whether the 20% growth (for offshoring firms) comes from adding another 20% (staff) per year or “moving up the value chain” is anyone’s guess. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basab<br />
You make a few interesting points. And the need is certainly here. </p>
<p>The ‘big three’ of Indian IT average at over $4 billion. But with 100K employees each, the earning per employee averages $40K/employee. Five years ago, revenues averaged at $800-850mil with about 20K employees. [Earning/ employee the same magical $40K/employee]</p>
<p>On the surface, global ‘competitors” in the services space seem to be faring better Accenture with about $23 B and 170K employees can show about $136K and EDS (22B, 139K) about $156K.  However the fuzzy math here may be because these are not pure-play offshoring firms and hence comparing revenues streams may be like comparing apples and oranges (?)… and not really manpower-vs-solutions. </p>
<p>Whether the 20% growth (for offshoring firms) comes from adding another 20% (staff) per year or “moving up the value chain” is anyone’s guess. <img src='http://6ampacific.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Krishna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krishna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In one word, Innovate!

R&amp;D expenses should cease to look like rounding errors in IT company balance sheets.  

Now that IBM,Accenture and EDS are in our own backyard, learn the art of snatching  meals from under one&#039;s nose!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In one word, Innovate!</p>
<p>R&amp;D expenses should cease to look like rounding errors in IT company balance sheets.  </p>
<p>Now that IBM,Accenture and EDS are in our own backyard, learn the art of snatching  meals from under one&#8217;s nose!</p>
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